Netherlands Training & Press Conference - Group B: UEFA EURO 2012

Rivalries renewed, unexpected desperation, and Netherlands-Germany: Wednesday’s Euro 2012 B-Side

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The most anticipated match of group stage kicks off at 2:45 p.m. Eastern when two of the pre-tournament favorites meet in Kharkiv, though when Germany and the Netherlands were drawn together in December, few thought their Group B meeting could be an elimination match. Both ranked among the top four in the world, most assumed the teams would advance out of Group B, which meant taking care of business against Denmark and Portugal. The Netherlands’ Saturday loss changed all that.

Side 1: Your Denmark-Portugal playlist

By the time the whistle blows, the Oranje will know if they need a result. If Denmark beats Portugal, a Germany win eliminates the Dutch. Even a draw would handcuff the Netherlands, leaving them hoping an already qualified Denmark will take full points from Germany. Though one point would keep them alive in that scenario, the Netherlands would lose control of their own destiny.

Those are the stakes for the latest iteration of one of world’s great soccer rivalries. Laced with geographic, political, stylistic, and competitive implications, the teams have met 37 teams, including the 1974 World Cup final, won by a West German team that didn’t touch the ball until after the Dutch had scored. While much of the rivalry was defined as Dutch idealism versus Germany pragmatism, the changes implemented by Dutch head coach Bert van Marwijk now make the sides more spitting images than foils.

On Wednesday, the stakes are much higher for one of those images, though after this weekend’s disappointment, the Netherlands may be pulling another facet of their past into focus.

Here’s your Group B B-Side:

Side 2: Netherlands vs. Germany

5. Catch my own fall

The Netherlands have a (perhaps exaggerated) history of internal strife undermining the national team. The most recent example was Euro 2008, when a reported battle of egos between Robin van Persie and Wesley Sneijder caused fissures. The team rolled through what was thought a tough group (in hindsight, it looks very easy) only to be eliminated by Russia in the quarterfinals.

For the first time since Euro 2008, the Netherlands have hit a mid-tournament pothole. In South Africa, their only setback was in the final. They never had to deal with adversity.

source:  Between the unfortunate incidents at last week’s training session, the weekend loss, and the tension of and international derby, you wonder if some clichéd specter isn’t about to reappear.

6. Walking through the back door

Right back Gregory Van der Wiel had a tough opening match, and he was supposed to be one of the good ones.

The Dutch defense was a big question mark coming into the tournament, and with one of their World Cup starters performing below expectations, the answers aren’t encouraging. Left-center half Ron Vlaar (starting ahead of Joris Mathijsen) was fine, and 18-year-old Jetro Willems alleviated some fears, but neither had enough opportunities to assuage the skeptics.

Germany gives the defense a chance to convert some doubters. Willems is going to be tested by Thomas Müller, Van der Wiel will have to stop Lukas Podolski, while the entire back six will try to contain Mesüt Özil.

If they do, they’ll not have quieted the critics. They’ll probably have won the game.

7. Intensity

Germany won’t get the steady buildup most teams get through group stage. Normally there’s a cautious opening game followed by the match that puts you in position for the final round. In that third game, you’re either already through or have to fight for your life. Regardless, the knockout stages are coming into focus.

Thanks to the Netherlands losing their first match, Germany will get third match intensity in the middle of group stage. They’re emotions Germany will need to match it if they have designs on finishing first.

Though a win will keep them at the top of the group, a draw keeps their first place destiny in their hands. They don’t need to win to have a good day.

8. No Free Rides

Like the Dutch, the Germans came into the tournament with questions surrounding their defense. Those questions were nowhere near as intense as those posed at their opponents, but there were still doubts, particularly surrounding center half Per Mertesacker, who struggled after his move to Arsenal.

Joachim Low made the tough call, benched Mertesacker, and vaulted Mats Hummels into the starting lineup. He and Mario Gomez are the only changes to the team that finished third at the World Cup. In defense, that means Jerome Boateng starts at right back, with Holger Badstuber and captain Philipp Lahm on the left.

Whether injecting Hummels was the right choice is yet to be seen. Portugal didn’t test the defense until late, when they looked quite good while doing so. Overall, there was little to learn from the back line’s first 90 minutes.

Against the Dutch, the back four should be so lucky. The Bayern Munich-heavy defense will be familiar with teammate Arjen Robben as well as Wesley Sneijder, who led the Inter Milan team that downed Bayern in the 2010 Champions League final. Then there’s Robin van Persie, the leading scorer in the English Premier League.

As with the Dutch defense, we’re likely to answers after Wednesday’s game. Given few would argue Mats Hummels is a worse player than Per Mertsesacker, this defense may be an improvement on the one that took Germany to third in South Africa.

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Premier League Preview: Crystal Palace vs. Liverpool

LONDON, ENGLAND - MARCH 06:  Yohan Cabaye of Crystal Palace battles with Emre Can of Liverpool during the Barclays Premier League match between Crystal Palace and Liverpool at Selhurst Park on March 6, 2016 in London, England.  (Photo by Mike Hewitt/Getty Images)
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  • Palace 5W-1D-3L in last 9 vs. Reds
  • Reds lead all-time 18W-7D-9L
  • Liverpool two-straight wins at Selhurst Park

Liverpool’s title aims meet a struggling foe in Crystal Palace in a Saturday match at Selhurst Park (12:30 p.m. ET, NBC and streaming via NBC Sports Live).

The Reds are level on points with Arsenal and Manchester City but behind on a pair of goals in differential. Jurgen Klopp‘s side had to contend with Spurs at midweek in the EFL Cup, but the Reds used a few youth players to stay fresh for the weekend.

[ MLS: Seattle beats KC | Montreal tops DC ]

Palace has a lone point in three matches, and has dropped to 11th place in the table. That’s four points clear of the drop zone, and Alan Pardew‘s teams have fallen victim to long losing streaks in the past. He’ll want to stop the rot straightaway.

And, for whatever reason, Palace has been able to find points against Liverpool. The Eagles have won five of nine against the Reds, and Christian Benteke will be fired up to face the manager who didn’t have much of a need for the big Belgian striker.

What they’re saying

Yohan Cabaye on playing for CPFC boss Alan Pardew:He wants us to be really focused and determined through the week because if not he knows that otherwise come the weekend it will be very difficult to be fit and play at 100 percent. He tries to keep us really focused on the details because now, in modern football, details are really important.”

Liverpool’s Georginio Wijnaldum on young players contributing vs. Spurs“You see a lot of young players when they come into the first team and play a big game, they are nervous and you don’t see their quality immediately. I don’t know if they were nervous but it didn’t seem like it. They just played their game and played how they train.”


Palace has several dangerous components in Wilfried Zaha, Yohan Cabaye, and Andros Townsend. If they are delivering plays to what will be an extremely motivated Christian Benteke, check out how Liverpool’s back line handles the big man. Look for Palace to be in this one all 90 long, and the Eagles just may nick a point at home. 2-2.

Barcelona asks court to act against Spanish league president

VALENCIA, SPAIN - OCTOBER 22:  FC Barcelona celebrates after Lionel Messi of FC Barcelona scored his team's third goal from the penalty spot during the La Liga match between Valencia CF and FC Barcelona at Mestalla stadium on October 22, 2016 in Valencia, Spain.  (Photo by David Ramos/Getty Images)
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BARCELONA, Spain (AP) Barcelona is asking a sports tribunal to consider sanctioning the Spanish federation and the president of the Spanish league after they condemned a goal celebration and accused players of provoking rival fans.

The club said Thursday it has formally requested the Administrative Court of Sport open disciplinary proceedings against Javier Tebas and members of the federation’s competition committee after their “unacceptable public declarations and assessments” about Barcelona players.

[ MORE: Spanish FF chastises Barcelona ]

The competition committee fined Valencia 1,500 euros ($1,600) on Wednesday after water bottles were thrown at Barcelona players celebrating a late winner in a Spanish league match on Saturday in Valencia.

It also condemned the attitude of the players by saying they shouldn’t have turned to the stands to celebrate and that they exaggerated after some of them were hit by one of the bottles. It said their actions exposed them to ridicule.

Barcelona said the committee “is not there to make assessments but rather to take disciplinary action, or not, in order to make an example of incidents that occur” on the pitch.

“Making statements regarding the actions of the players adds even more tension to a situation that must be deescalated,” Barcelona president Josep Maria Bartomeu said.

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Bartomeu also had harsh words for Tebas, who told Spanish media that he didn’t like the attitude of some Barcelona players, hinting that they provoked the fans during their celebration.

“The declarations made by Tebas are irresponsible and unbecoming of a sports executive,” Bartomeu said.

Barcelona’s next game is Saturday against last-place Granada at the Camp Nou.

Premier League Preview: Manchester United vs. Burnley

MANCHESTER, ENGLAND - FEBRUARY 11:  Chris Smalling of Manchester United scores the opening goal during the Barclays Premier League match between Manchester United and Burnley at Old Trafford on February 11, 2015 in Manchester, England.  (Photo by Michael Regan/Getty Images)
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  • Burnley hasn’t won at OT since 1962
  • Man Utd leads all-time 58W-20D-44L
  • Clarets sit 14th, United 7th

Manchester United seeks its first Premier League win in four tries when it hosts pesky Burnley at Old Trafford on Saturday (10 a.m. ET, NBCSN and streaming via NBC Sports Live).

Burnley has picked up their fair share of draws at Old Trafford in their long history, but wins have not been found at Manchester United in more than half a century.

[ MLS: Seattle beats KC | Montreal tops DC ]

The Clarets are coming off a win over Everton, and Sean Dyche‘s crew waited until the 90th minute to score the winner through Canadian international Scott Arfield.

United will be buoyed after beating rivals Manchester City in a midweek EFL Cup clash that moved the Red Devils into the final eight of the tournament.

What they’re saying

United’s Ander Herrera on playing at Old Trafford: “I feel it like them. I know I am not English and I am not from Manchester, but I really love this club and I have enjoyed my time here. I don’t want to be just one more player. I want to show that I am very happy here and I want to be here for as long as possible.”

Burnley keeper Tom Heaton on returning to OT“It’s a special game back. I still hold a lot of affection for the football club. I spent 13 years there and almost grew up there. I’m still pleased I made that decision to earn those stripes and get back to the Premier League and be involved in the international set-up. It’s always a nice feeling going back there but, as ever, there will be a job to do and that will be the focus.”


Burnley will be rested and ready to grind out a result, but United knows it needs to start stacking wins to stay in the mix for a European place. The Red Devils will open Burnley up early en route to a scrappy 3-1 win.

MLS conference semifinals schedule set for Sunday

Toronto FC's Justin Morrow (left) celebrates his goal with teammates Sebatian Giovinco, Jonathan Osorio (right) and Jozy Altidore (back) against the Chicago Fire during second half MLS soccer action in Toronto, Sunday, Oct. 23, 2016. (Frank Gunn/The Canadian Press via AP)
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Major League Soccer’s “play-in” round of the playoffs is over, with the chalk going 3-for-4.

[ MLS: Seattle beats KC | Montreal tops DC ]

The Impact’s 4-2 win over DC United was the only upset of the first round, with Seattle, Los Angeles, and Toronto all handling their business at home.

Now we know who plays Sunday, and what order they’ll take the pitches of MLS.

all times ET

Montreal vs. New York Red Bulls — 3 p.m.
LA Galaxy vs. Colorado Rapids — 5 p.m.
Toronto FC vs. New York City FC — 7 p.m.
Seattle Sounders vs. FC Dallas — 9:30 p.m.

November 6

New York Red Bulls vs. Montreal — TBD
Colorado Rapids vs. LA Galaxy — TBD
New York City FC vs. Toronto FC — TBD
FC Dallas vs. Seattle Sounders — TBD