Vicente del Bosque doing his part to affirm Iker Casillas’s iconography at Real Madrid

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It’s important to remember that a lack of discussion is what got us here to begin with. The blind assumption that Iker Casillas — or Saint Iker, as he’s known to Real Madrid loyalists — was beyond reproach the greatest goalkeeper in the world enhanced the shock when he was benched midway through last season. Had people, especially those who follow Real Madrid, spoke of Casillas as one of the best goalkeepers in the world (instead of the best), his minor faults would have been closer to the public mind. The debate about his value would have already been happening, if only implicitly.

But because of an exaggerated perception, his 2012-13 fall became particularly pronounced. Instead of a goalkeeper merely losing his job, Casillas’s benching was became a saint’s fall from grace. Or, for more Real Madrid fans, the unjust attack on an idol perpetrated by a pariah, José Mourinho.

It was a heightened discussion, often irrational discussion, but it id have one meaningful positive: We could finally start having meaningful conversations on the merits and drawbacks to Casillas. They’re the type of conversations we’ve been having for years around Gianluigu Buffon, Petr Cech, Manuel Neuer, yet Casillas’s image and renown left him relatively free of such evaluations. Now that Mourinho and his conflicts have moved on from the Bernabéu, we can finally start having such disucssions.

Well, we can have those discussions unless, for some reason, Saint Iker somehow manages to be re-anointed, something these comments from Vicente del Bosque in Marca serve to do. The Spain national team coach, a Real Madrid man through and through (14 years as a player; six as a coach), offered words of defense for his current number one, words that play into some of the hyperbole that surrounds Casillas.

Describing what he’s noticed of Casillas’s emotional state:

It is not easy to overcome a very difficult situation. I have many times imagined him getting up in the mornings and saying to himself “I have been with Real Madrid since I was a boy, and I can’t be compared with any other player in terms of cost and productivity, so why are there a number of people who spend all day long abusing me, insulting me?

Del Bosque’s highlighted a real problem, one that may explain Casillas’s turmoil, though there is an obvious solution. Players shouldn’t get up in the morning telling yourself things like “I can’t be compared with any other player in terms of cost and productivity.” Let’s hope Casillas has never done that, though if he has (or anybody felt the same about him), it would explain the disproportionate incredulity surrounding his benching.

Del Bosque again, on the importance of Casillas:

There are people who simply don’t realise what he means to Real Madrid, but there are many, many more who do.

I clearly don’t. I’ll admit that. However, in the abstract, if a player within a club is so valuable that he can’t be benched, we can’t have an honest dialog about his merits, nor can we move on from that dialog without resurrecting of an apocryphal legacy, the club becomes overly beholden to one man, something that should never happen. Iker Casillas is a part of Real Madrid. He doesn’t define it.

To be clear, the fact that Iker Casillas is a soccer legend at the Bernabéu is not apocryphal. He certainly is. The extent to which that legend influences our evaluation of the Casillas’s 32-year-old self is the problem.

Casillas can both be a legend and imperfect. There’s no need for Madrid loyalists like del Bosque to persist with the insistence he’s beyond reproach.

Wigan player races off for son’s birth after scoring 2 goals

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WIGAN, England (AP) It was better than a hat trick.

A player for English soccer team Wigan had a night to remember when he scored his second goal before dashing off the field and to the local hospital, where his girlfriend was in labor.

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A picture of Ryan Colclough holding his new-born baby, Harley, while still in his soccer uniform was shared on social media by Wigan chairman David Sharpe.

Colclough said his father, sitting in the stands on Tuesday for Wigan’s 3-0 win over Doncaster in the second division, “gave me the action that the waters had broken,” but he didn’t want to come off until the ball was out of play.

“My head was a little bit battered, but I went and scored, looked at the manager and he said we’ll bring you off now,” Colclough said Wednesday of his 58th-minute goal, which he celebrated by pretending to rock a baby. “I came off and was straight down the tunnel, grabbed my keys and my phone, and went to hospital.”

Colclough had visited the midwife that day, and was told the baby was unlikely to arrive for “another couple of days.”

Lille suspends coach Marcelo Bielsa

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LILLE, France (AP) French club Lille has provisionally suspended coach Marcelo Bielsa following a string of poor results in the top tier.

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The northern side said in a statement that Bielsa has been suspended “as part of a procedure started by the club.” Lille did not elaborate.

Bielsa joined Lille this season but has failed to make the club competitive again, with the team second to last after 13 matches.

The 2 Robbies podcast: PL sides in the UCL, Pulis sacking and more

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In today’s Euro Pod Edition, the Robbies breakdown the latest Champions League action. Man United lose at Basel, Chelsea cruise at Qarabag, Spurs impress against Dortmund, Man City continue to win, Liverpool surrender a 3-goal lead against Sevilla. Plus, the guys weigh in on the Oumar Niasse ban for diving and the Tony Pulis sacking.

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Europa League preview: Arsenal looks to wrap up Group H and more

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While several teams have already booked their place in the knockout phase, the Europa League reaches its penultimate round on Thursday with many big matches in hand.

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Of the two Premier League sides in the competition, only one will advance to the Round of 32, as Arsenal have all but assured themselves of the top spot in Group H. The Gunners can do so tomorrow with a win over Koln or a Red Star Belgrade defeat.

The other end of the spectrum features Everton, who has already been eliminated from reaching the next round after acquiring just one point in its first four matches.

European giants AC Milan can lock up a spot in the knockout phase on Thursday despite the club’s ongoing struggles in Serie A, while fellow Italian side Atalanta can move a step closer to the Round of 32 in Group E along with Lyon.

Here’s the full rundown of Thursday’s UEL matches.

Astana vs. Villareal — 11 a.m. ET
Konyaspor vs. Marseille — 1 p.m. ET
Rosenborg vs. Real Sociedad — 1 p.m. ET
Lazio vs. Vitesse — 1 p.m. ET
Viktoria Plzen vs. Steaua Bucuresti — 1 p.m. ET
Lokomotiv vs. Copenhagen — 1 p.m. ET
Zenit vs. Vardar — 1 p.m. ET
Red Bull Salzburg vs. Vitoria — 1 p.m. ET
Athletic Bilbao vs. Hertha Berlin — 1 p.m. ET
BATE vs. Red Star Belgrade — 1 p.m. ET
Ostersund vs. Zorya — 1 p.m. ET
Koln vs. Arsenal — 1 p.m. ET
Nice vs. Zulte Waregem — 1 p.m. ET
Lugano vs. Beer-Sheva — 1 p.m. ET
Ludogorets vs. Istanbul — 3:05 p.m. ET
Braga vs. Hoffenheim — 3:05 p.m. ET
AEK vs. Rijeka — 3:05 p.m. ET
AC Milan vs. Austria Wien — 3:05 p.m. ET
Lyon vs. Apollon — 3:05 p.m. ET
Maccabi Tel Aviv vs. Slavia Praha — 3:05 p.m. ET
Sheriff vs. Zlin — 3:05 p.m. ET
Partizan vs. Young Boys — 3:05 p.m. ET
Skenderbeu vs. Dynamo Kyiv — 3:05 p.m. ET
Everton vs. Atalanta — 3:05 p.m. ET