Your obligatory Kenny Dalglish should or shouldn’t be fired post

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That this blog is a month old and has not weighed in on Kenny Dalglish leaves it in poor standing in the international blogmunity. Without a doubt, PST’s an inside-out looking team. We take care of our home bases (MLS, USMNT, USWNT) first. Still, we do feign opinions about the broader soccerverse, so we have to have something to say about the sharks circling Liverpool’s iconic manager. Should they pounce or seek other prey?

It occurred to me, while reading Pedro Pinto’s ‘pounce’ post yesterday, that there’s still a ton of noise in the debate. Pinto cites Liverpool’s 19th place in the Premier League since the calendar hit Jan. 1, a data point that may understate Liverpool’s problems. Taking a broader view of the slump, Liverpool’s six losses in seven is their worst stretch since the 1950s. But then you read Jonathan Wilson’s piece in support of Dalglish – saying short-termism is obfuscating Dalglish’s good work (which includes a League Cup) – and you’re baffled. Not only are two reasonable, learned, considerate in-the-knows on completely different sides, but there seems to be little reasonable middle ground.

And it all comes down to criteria. We’ve all become used to the idea that silverware matters, and in that sense, Wilson’s absolutely right. If Dalglish wants to give cup competitions the attention Wilson feels they merit, perhaps that’s admirable. But we’ve also gotten used to the idea that league is the primary battle in the modern game, and by that standard, Dalglish is certainly failing. Liverpool co-owner John W. Henry had explicit top-four aspirations after his summer spending (aspirations few dismissed). And then there’s the standards at a club like Chelsea, where you want it all. There is no reason not to be competitive on all fronts, and even then, you may still be out of a job if things seem to be slipping.

Perhaps the fact that Dalglish hasn’t restored Liverpool to that platform is enough to bring his guidance into question, but it wouldn’t be enough to fire him. Liverpool is one of the storied clubs in England, and it’s insane that we’ve gotten used to talking about them in this mitigating tone, but the path back to the top isn’t necessarily a smooth one. As Manchester City’s shown us, Real Madrid wasn’t built in a day. So it may be best to heed Wilson and take a longer-term view. How is Kenny forging the Liverpool of tomorrow?

But all that leads us back to Pinto’s point: Whatever Dalglish is doing, it’s not working, and there’s no excuse for LFC’s horrible 2012 returns. Those horrible returns are our best indication of what’s coming tomorrow. If Dalglish were only tasked with making progress, a League Cup isn’t enough to distract from relegation form. Had Henry, this summer, asked what all his spending would get him, would he have been satisfied if Dalglish answered “Regression in league, possible FA Cup, but definitely the League Cup”?

Perhaps we should reconsider our piddling regard for the League Cup. Liverpool did have to beat Chelsea then Manchester City before getting to Wembley. But while we’re reevaluating standards, we should also consider how little we’re expecting out of Liverpool. The Reds have only three points from their last seven matches, sit eighth with an anchor, and have scored 36 goals in 33 league games.  A lot of those numbers are attributable to a post-League Cup malaise, but allowing your team to be in this deep a malaise doesn’t do much to recommend your leadership.

But with Liverpool already qualified for next year’s Europa League, there isn’t much benefit to canning Dalglish now. They’re not going to be in a relegation battle, and there is little plus to a Di Matteo-esque new coach bounce. And there’s nothing to be gained by showing a club legend the door based on poor league form when they’re playing for nothing. Even if Liverpool bows out to Everton in the FA Cup semifinals, there’s so little time left in the season that a dismissal only rocks a boat for the sake of the waves.

Liverpool and Dalglish need to acknowledge the first three months of this year have been unacceptable. For the run-in they need to establish an acceptable level of play – something that portends well to a 2012-13 under Dalglish – and use that as a benchmark.

Of course, if Dalglish really isn’t the man for the job, that plan only gives him an out.

Crystal Palace – Everton: How to watch, start time, prediction, odds

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Crystal Palace – Everton: It’s a battle of perfect teams on Saturday when Everton visits Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park (Watch live at 10 am ET on NBCSN and online via NBCSports.com).

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The Eagles have knocked off Southampton and Manchester United to open their 2020-21 Premier League season while Everton has handled Tottenham Hotspur and West Bromwich Albion.

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Two legends of the game will be at the helm when Roy Hodgson and Carlo Ancelotti match wits on Saturday. Can the former continue to coax unexpected results of his Eagles against the strengthened and powerful Toffees?


Team news: Crystal Palace – Everton (INJURY REPORT)

James Tomkins (thigh), Nathan Ferguson (knee), Patrick van Aanholt (shoulder), Christian Benteke (ankle), Gary Cahill (thigh) and Jairo Riedewald (undisclosed) are all set to miss out for Roy Hodgson’s Eagles.

Fabian Delph returned for the midweek League Cup game but Everton won’t have Jarrad Branthwaite (ankle), Mason Holgate (ankle), Cenk Tosun (knee), and Jean-Philippe Gbamin (calf).


What they’re saying

Roy Hodgson on how the Eagles won (again) at Old Trafford: “We made certain and kept them playing in front of us and they could not profit from those spaces they are skillful enough to find. And when we had the ball I thought we looked very dangerous and threatening so I don’t think it was a big surprise that we scored three.”

Carlo Ancelotti after Jordan Pickford made a gaffe against Fleetwood Town: “I think the first goal was not an individual mistake because we passed the ball back to Jordan, it was a really difficult ball and we could behave differently. Of course you have to improve there. We want to build up from the back, but when there’s no risk. If it’s risky it’s no good because we can concede a goal like we did. It can be a good lesson for the future. I didn’t speak to him and, as I said, I have to speak with players that were involved when we build-up.Jordan was not the only one.”

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FLEETWOOD, ENGLAND – SEPTEMBER 23: Jordan Pickford of Everton is challenged by Josh Morris of Fleetwood Town (Photo by Alex Livesey/Getty Images).

Odds and ends (full odds provided by our partner, PointsBet)

Palace is an underdog despite beating United and it’s perhaps a bit surprising to see them at +275 with a draw at +220. An Everton win delivers +110.

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Crystal Palace – Everton prediction

Hodgson has coaxed some tremendous midfield performances out of James McArthur, James McCarthy, and Luka Milivojevic in his tenure at Palace but out-performing Abdoulaye Doucoure, Allan, and Andre Gomes is a big ask even for that steely crew. James Rodriguez is in incredible form but so is Wilfried Zaha. Couldn’t this one go either way? Yes, but if Everton’s moving in the direction many believe it will be able to take all three points in a composed 2-1 win.


How to watch Crystal Palace – Everton stream and start time

Kickoff: 10 am ET Saturday
TV Channel: NBCSN
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Brighton – Manchester United: How to watch, start time, odds, prediction

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Brighton – Manchester United: Impressive Brighton and Hove Albion hopes to continue Manchester United’s winless league season when the Red Devils visit the Amex Stadium on Saturday (Watch live at 7:30 am ET on NBCSN and online via NBCSports.com).

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It will be the first two meetings in several days, as Brighton’s win at Preston North End and United’s takedown of Luton Town set up a League Cup fourth round date at the Amex.

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United handled Brighton well last season, winning 3-1 and 3-0, so this will be a great test at the acumen of both managers: Graham Potter in his second full season with the Seagulls and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer attempting to prove his doubters wrong.


Team news: Brighton – Manchester United (INJURY REPORT)

The Seagulls will not have Yves Bissouma, who was suspended three matches for his no-look, studs-up kick into the face of Newcastle defender Jamal Lewis. Brighton manager Graham Potter revealed that the long-term recovery of Jose Izquierdo is about two weeks away from being complete.

Manchester United will be without Axel Tuanzebe and Phil Jones.


What they’re saying

Potter on the League Cup win setting up consecutive Man United tests: “It’s a big week for us with those two matches and then Everton before the international break. That’s what we wanted because we wanted to go through in this competition. Players always want to play and the best thing for them is to be out on the field on nights like tonight to keep everyone in the group ready for when they’re needed. You saw that today. There was a willingness to run and fight for the team and get the result and that’s why I’m very happy.”

United’s Solskjaer after goalkeeper Dean Henderson starred on his senior debut: “The goalkeeping department and training level has been really high, of course, you can see driven and dedicated people and I’ve enjoyed watching them. Dean in goal, good save, you can see he’s having to concentrate and it’s a different job to what he’s done a few times last season and he came up with the save when he had to.”

League Cup results
LUTON, ENGLAND – SEPTEMBER 22: Dean Henderson of Manchester United saves a shot at Kenilworth Road (Photo by Catherine Ivill/Getty Images)

Odds and ends (full odds provided by our partner, PointsBet)

Brighton is +375 to win at home, while a draw nets the wagerer +260. Manchester United is expected to win and thusly -130 to take all three points.

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Brighton – Manchester United prediction

The only thing keeping us from pegging a very impressive Brighton team to collect another win is the shadow cast by Manchester United’s 2019-20 season (and long tradition of winning). United was rusty in its loss to Crystal Palace and had to work hard to defeat Luton Town in the League Cup. If that rust was there last week, how do the legs feel after a week? Anyway, the Red Devils still have Bruno Fernandes and it just doesn’t seem like this team starts 0-2 (or even 0-1-1). I grimace as I write 2-1 to Manchester United.


How to watch Brighton – Manchester United stream and start time

Kickoff: 7:30 am ET Saturday
TV Channel: NBCSN
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Lampard gushes after Thiago Silva debut, Havertz hat trick

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Chelsea rebounded from its weekend loss to Liverpool by getting the good vibes going through a number of new faces Wednesday in a League Cup blowout of Barnsley.

Kai Havertz scored three times, Ben Chilwell came off the bench to chip in an assist on debut, and Thiago Silva went 60 minutes in his first match in a Chelsea shirt as the Blues pounded the Championship side 6-0.

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We’ll start with the longtime PSG defender, who had four clearances, an interception, and a tackle while winning both of his duels.

He passed at 94 percent including six-of-seven long balls. Even accounting for the competition, that’s solid.

Lampard called Silva’s outing “a perfect 60 minutes” via Football.London:

“He also gave us something for me on the night in the dressing room and on the pitch of a leader with authority in terms of his demands on others,” Lampard said. “He can’t speak the language but at the minute that’s not even a problem because his presence and the way he commands people around him is already showing that to me in training and in our game tonight. Yes, I am very very pleased with Thiago. It is what I expected of a player of his level but it is very refreshing to have him here at the club.”

ProSoccerTalk talked about Chelsea’s need for a leader at the back during this week’s “Unfiltered,” and Lampard has clearly been waiting for someone like Silva.

As for Havertz, you only needed the box score to see his influence on the game.

Two of Havertz’s three goals were assisted by Tammy Abraham and a third from Mason Mount.

The German phenom also racked up five tackles and two key passes against Barnsley.

“He makes the recovery tackle for Ross (Barkley)’s goal, but then to also just have some freedom on the ball in central areas roaming behind Tammy,” Lampard said. “The combinations he had with Tammy, the way he grew into the game and had confidence and the three goals. It was a great night for Kai and the first of many for him.”

Havertz scored seven braces for Bayer Leverkusen, but this was his first hat trick. Barnsley may play in the second tier, but they had allowed three goals in their last four games.

Whoops.

Actors Reynolds, McElhenney bid to invest in Wrexham AFC

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“The Gang Buys a Football Team?”

“It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia” actor Rob McElhenney and “Deadpool” star Ryan Reynolds are said to be in talks to buy National League side Wrexham AFC, reports The Guardian.

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The Welsh club, nicknamed the Red Dragons, was founded in 1864 and made it to the European Cup Winners’ Cup eight times between 1972-96.

They’ve since been relegated out of the Football League, dipping out of League Two in 2008.

McElhenney and Reynolds have bid to take over the club, and the Wrexham Supporters Trust says 97.5 percent of their members voted to allow the actors to propose their vision for the club before a second vote.

From wst.org.uk:

As a result, talks with the proposed bidders will now continue and we are in a position to confirm the two people interested in investing in Wrexham AFC.

Rob McElhenney is an American actor, director, producer and screenwriter, best known as the creator of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

Ryan Reynolds is an award-winning Canadian actor, writer, producer and business entrepreneur whose credits include Marvel’s Deadpool.

It’s gotta get McElhenney’s goat that Reynolds gets the “award-winning” adjective added to his name.

Either way, this is definitely an intriguing club for investment and the potential addition of Reynolds and McElhenney to the fray would only increase the interest in Wrexham AFC.

Deadpool and Mac would be quite a combo in the transfer market.